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Old 07-18-2008, 03:27 PM
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Our stripper Stang. Come on baby light my fire.
You learn a little something new everyday. If I hang around long enough, I'll be a genius. Today's lesson; Ford 2G alternators and fires.

Before you get the wrong idea, our stripper Mustang that we call "Project 666" is fine. We didn't burn it to ground or anything like that.


Project 666. Our '87 Ford Mustang. She's a beast, but we love her.

We were having some battery and charging issues with our project car, and those issues led us to the alternator. Nothing special there, an alternator change is pretty straight forward, and to be honest, pretty boring.

We make a quick run to the parts store and pick up a replacement. Normally we hunt around and find a really cool aftermarket performance piece to replace the stock factory stuff, but we were in a hurry.

I opened the box for the new part and a piece of paper catches my eye. Real men don't read the instructions but this paper looked different and important. So we gathered around to take a closer look:


Fire Hazard! This piece of paper must be important.

Very top line of the paper states in big bold letters: DANGER. FIRE HAZARD.
OK. Now they have my attention. I flip the paper over and the big bold letters on the other side say: PELIGRO. RIESGO DE FUEGO. I know what Fuego means from my many Taco Bell visits. Now I am more than curious and want to figure out what the 5 alarm fire warning is all about.

Not wanting to appear ignorant, or more than I already do...I bypass asking James. He has a lot of experience in these model Mustangs, and he's my boss, so I head for the internet.

A little searching around and I get an education on electrical connectors and the factory charging system for the 5.0 Mustangs. I didn't know this before, so I figured it was worth sharing. Check this out:


The stock 2G alternator.

The Fox Body 5 liter Mustangs were equipped with what Ford calls the 2G alternator. This alternator is rated at 75 amps which is ok for the electrical system on a Stock Mustang that doesn't have power accessories. When you have one of these Mustangs though, they don't stay stock long. Much like our 666 Stang, modifications are common, and many of them are electrical.

That is when the problems start to come into play. Electric fans, water pumps, nitrous solenoids and such, start to draw more load than the alternator can keep up with. Best case scenario; the alternator quits. Worse case scenario; Fuego.


The bad guy: the two wire spade connector.

The stock wiring harness and alternator has a three spade design, of which, two spades share the current. Our connector was three spade but only two were in use, the third had a factory seal on the wire side of the connector.

So two spades are sharing the current and as the load (demand) increases, the resistance in the wires increases to the point of overload. Overloads create massive heat that can melt the wires and wire harness. Resulting in: yeah, you guessed it, Fuego.


Three spade connector on the alternator.

Ford recognized this problem in 1996 and issued a technical service bulletin. The update was an electrical wiring kit (part number E5AZ-14305-AA) to eliminate the possibility of Fuego. Accordingly, the new replacement alternators now have direct wiring and you must cut out the three spade connector and direct wire the new alternator in.


The new alternator. Hard wired, no more spade connectors.


Cutting the stock connector.


The wires from the new alternator are soldered together and covered with heat shrink.


A final wrap with electrical tape and she's good as new.

It's Friday, I have averted a fire and shared some info. It's time to shut down the Shop and let the dogs out. Have a great weekend.
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Old 07-21-2008, 06:11 PM
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BJ

why is your cartoon character jerking off??
Could you not pick something that is not touching itself!!
Don't you do that all day anyways!

Vader Out!
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Old 07-22-2008, 08:49 AM
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Vader man,
Stewie Rules! How dare you make fun of Stuart. How about we try this:

Keep on topic. I know this may be tough on you, but let me give you some guidance. Post first then drink beer, not the other way around. Better yet, I'll private message you my phone number and you run your posts by me before you type them in. I'll let you know if you should even bother posting.

KBRO out!
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Old 07-22-2008, 08:58 AM
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What your telling me is like Communism!!
I am on topic just saying why are you touching ourself...Maybe too much beer?
I have no problem with Stewie just that he playing with himself thats all.
Your such a touchy maybe you need to give yourself a helping hand like Stewie than everything will be all good and clear minded!!

Check you laters Stallin!
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Old 07-22-2008, 09:09 AM
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Calm down Abbie Hoffman. I didn't mean to get your liberal hackles up. Ok, maybe you didn't have enough beer (or other substances Mr. Timothy Leary). I was not saying that I should censor you, just to check with me before you post so you don't look like a moron.

See. I like you and am watching out for you. I don't want people to get the wrong perception of you. That's all. Have a beer (or what ever) and calm down.
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Old 07-22-2008, 09:17 AM
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OHH I'm calm and did whatever too early in the morning!!
I like being a moron, its what I do best and I don't have to get approval from you when I want to be a moron on purpose or not.
Your now offending me and I think I need to talk to the President about you not letting me be a moron on this site. Once again Stallin your telling what to do and when to do it! I bet you miss the Soviet Union!!
When will you rednecks learn that beer doesn't solve everything just somethings!!
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Old 07-22-2008, 06:54 PM
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Ok. I want to make sure that we are clear on this. You have my permission to be a moron.
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Old 07-22-2008, 09:01 PM
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OK then!
Thats what I thought!!

American my birth Moron by choice!!
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